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This week on Vatican Insider, the interview segment is a repeat but it features a compelling storyteller and fascinating guest, Fr. Bill Petrie. At the time of our conversation, Fr. Bill, a priest of the Order of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary (SSCC), was pastor of St. Damien parish on the Hawaiian island of Molokai’i. We’ve been friends for a number of years and usually met at Kalaupapa on Molokai’i to talk about Sts. Damien, SSCC, and Marianne Cope and their work there with victims of leprosy. We met at the home of some mutual friends in Honolulu on the island of Oahu to talk about his 25 years of work with St. Mother Teresa! 25 years! Tons of insight and remarkable stories about this holy woman, whose feast day we celebrated recently. I cannot find my photo of our Honolulu encounter but there was a rainbow over Fr. Bill’s head as we finished our talk! Fr. Bill now lives on Oahu. I have been focussing on St. Teresa recently, as you know from my recent interview segment when my guests were the producer and stars of the film, “Mother Teresa and Me.” The film was released by Fathom Events in select U.S. theaters for one night only on Oct. 5 2023. (Originally aired on 9/30/23)

My guest this weekend and next in the interview segment of “Vatican Insider” is Samuel Gregg, research director at the Acton Institute in Grand Rapids, Michigan. We spoke when he was in Rome to talk about his latest book, Reason, Faith and the Struggle for Western Civilization. (Originally aired on 11/15/19)

In the interview segment this week and next, I feature a conversation I had with Tony Clark, a scholar of all things Chinese, an historian, and writer who has authored dozens of books, articles, and other publications. He is a professor of Chinese history at Whitworth University in Spokane, Washington. Tony has lived and travelled extensively in China and tells many wonderful, riveting stories. We have a mutual passion for all things Chinese, especially the Catholic Church in mainland China (the “underground” Church and the government approved one) and the Church in Taiwan. Much of what Tony says will surprise and delight you. We also look at the 2018 accord signed – and renewed twice – between the Vatican and the Chinese communist government. And we talk at length about Taiwan. Both of us have visited mainland China and Taiwan. I also share with Tony an amazing job offer I received in Taiwan! We had met days earlier over dinner with a mutual friend, Jesuit Fr. Michael Maher, and probably could have talked until breakfast given our mutual love of and interest in all things Chinese. IN THE UNITED STATES, you can listen to Vatican Insider (VI) on a Catholic radio station near you (stations listed at www.ewtn.com) or on channel 130 Sirius-XM satellite radio, or on www.ewtn.com. OUTSIDE THE U.S., you can listen to EWTN radio on our website home page by clicking on the right side where you see “LISTEN TO EWTN.” VI airs at 5am and 9pm ET on Saturdays and 6am ET on Sundays. On the GB-IE feed (which is on SKY in the UK and Ireland), VI airs at 5:30am, 12 noon and 10pm CET on Sundays. Both of these feeds are also available on the EWTN app and on www.ewtnradio.net ALWAYS CHECK YOUR OWN TIME ZONE! For VI archives: go to www.ewtn.com/radio/audio-archive and write the name of the guest whom you are searching in the SEARCH box. Below that, will appear “Vatican Insider” – click on that and the link to that particular episode will appear.

In the interview segment this week and next, I feature a conversation I had with Tony Clark, a scholar of all things Chinese, an historian, and writer who has authored dozens of books, articles, and other publications. He is a professor of Chinese history at Whitworth University in Spokane, Washington. Tony has lived and travelled extensively in China and tells many wonderful, riveting stories. We have a mutual passion for all things Chinese, especially the Catholic Church in mainland China (the “underground” Church and the government approved one) and the Church in Taiwan. Much of what Tony says will surprise and delight you. We also look at the 2018 accord signed – and renewed twice – between the Vatican and the Chinese communist government. And we talk at length about Taiwan. Both of us have visited mainland China and Taiwan. I also share with Tony an amazing job offer I received in Taiwan! We had met days earlier over dinner with a mutual friend, Jesuit Fr. Michael Maher, and probably could have talked until breakfast given our mutual love of and interest in all things Chinese. IN THE UNITED STATES, you can listen to Vatican Insider (VI) on a Catholic radio station near you (stations listed at www.ewtn.com) or on channel 130 Sirius-XM satellite radio, or on www.ewtn.com. OUTSIDE THE U.S., you can listen to EWTN radio on our website home page by clicking on the right side where you see “LISTEN TO EWTN.” VI airs at 5am and 9pm ET on Saturdays and 6am ET on Sundays. On the GB-IE feed (which is on SKY in the UK and Ireland), VI airs at 5:30am, 12 noon and 10pm CET on Sundays. Both of these feeds are also available on the EWTN app and on www.ewtnradio.net ALWAYS CHECK YOUR OWN TIME ZONE! For VI archives: go to www.ewtn.com/radio/audio-archive and write the name of the guest whom you are searching in the SEARCH box. Below that, will appear “Vatican Insider” – click on that and the link to that particular episode will appear.

Welcome to Vatican Insider on the weekend after ferragosto, the Italian name once associated with pagan games in the month of August but now referring to the solemnity of the Assumption! It also refers to the usually quite long August period of holidays. In fact, the lazy, hazy days of ferragosto is the title of the Special that will appear in what is normally the interview segment of VI. This is August like you’ve never experienced or even imagined! I did this Special a couple of years ago and when speaking of the Assumption mention it was on a Monday. This week the feast fell on Thursday. In any case, I think you’ll be fascinated by August in Italy! Italians all seem to take their vacation in August as you will see by all the places that are closed (chiuso) for short or long periods: stores, offices, pharmacies, gas stations, even some restaurants and coffee bars!

My guest this week in the interview segment is Anthony di Mauro. We talk briefly about his time this summer as an intern in the Rome EWTN office and then focus on something amazing he has started called The Relic Project. That is the main focus of our conversation. What is a relic? Have you ever seen on? Does your family have one? What about your parish? Perhaps it even has a few relics. Are they on display? If not, why not? Listen closely to learn the difference between first class, second class and third class relics! Stay tuned for that conversation after the news highlights. Relics come in many forms. Relics that are old, even ancient, and/or very rare are usually preserved in some precious metal container, be it small, medium or very large.

“Summertime and the livin’ is easy” says George Gershwin’s famous song “Summertime” from “Porgy and Bess.” “The livin’ is easy” unless, of course, you are a tourist in Italy in July and August, desirious of seeing everything this culturally super rich country has to offer but you have to do so under scorching temperatures. There are days when the sidewalks seem to melt right under your feet and your shoes seem to become one with the pavement! Well, there are two abundant, faith-filled ways to get a bit of relief. Churches – and there are hundreds in Rome! – offer a coolness that truly uplifts the spirit as you slowly walk around, enjoying the work of silversmiths and goldsmiths, the sculptures, the many chapels, the main altar, the stunning cosmatesque floors and much more. Hopefully you will visit a few churches as Mass is about to begin. Another way to cool off is to spend some time in one or more of Rome’s celebrated catacombs. They are all well underground, of course and you will cool off the second you start to descend into these historic burial chambers. And that is what I will tell you about this weekend in what is normally the interview segment of Vatican Insider. If you intend to come to Rome in the near future or during the Jubilee Year 2025, the catacombs are a must.

As you know, Sunday, July 28 the Church marks the World Day of Grandparents and the Elderly. Thus, I decided to reprise a conversation I previously had with Catherine Wiley, grandmother and founder of Catholic Grandparents Association (CGA) and Marilyn Henry who coordinates CGA in the United States. (Catherine L, Marilyn R) Both women are grandmothers and both have exceptional lives and stories. As you will hear, Catherine had an idea, a dream that eventually came true with the First World Day of Grandparents and the Elderly! Such a great story of love and determination! And teamwork with Marilyn at her side. Enjoy! Heartfelt congratulations to all grandparents this weekend! Congrats also to the many senior citizens of the world who act as grandparents for the younger generations. By the way, the Apostolic Penitentiary is granting a Plenary Indulgence for the faithful who take part in the fourth World Day for Grandparents and the Elderly on July 28 under the usual conditions of sacramental Confession, reception of the Eucharist, and prayer for the intentions of the Holy Father.

Welcome to Vatican Insider on yet another scorching weekend in so many parts of the world. I hope you are staying cool as you listen to the program this week, especially the interview segment with my two special guests. As you know, Sunday, July 28 the Church marks the World Day of Grandparents and the Elderly. Thus, this weekend and next, in the interview segment of Vatican Insider, I reprise a conversation I had with Catherine Wiley, grandmother and founder of Catholic Grandparents Association (CGA) and Marilyn Henry who coordinates CGA in the United States Both women are grandmothers and both have exceptional lives and stories. As you will hear, Catherine was truly the catalyst for this now annual World Day. For years, Catherine had an idea, a dream and, after many meetings with Vatican officials and a couple with Pope Francis, the Pope instituted The World Day of Grandparents and the Elderly!

Welcome to Vatican Insider on what seems to be a torrid weekend in so much of the world! And so many people in the world do not have access to air conditioning or other methods of cooling off so let’s pray for those brothers and sisters of ours! This weekend in the interview segment! I present Part II of my conversation with Fr. Ramil Fajardo, a dear friend from the archdiocese of Chicago. For several years, he was the rector of the shrine of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini in Chicago. During his time there, he organized a Jubilee Year dedicated to Mother Cabrini and he is now involved in an interesting way with the Church’s worldwide 2025 Jubilee Year. Fr. Ramil, in fact, announced last week in Part I that a statue of Mother Cabrini is coming to Rome for the 2025 Holy Year and will be placed in a garden area of St. Paul’s Outside the Walls basilica. So, join Fr. Ramil and me for that riveting story! When you think of the impact of Frances Xavier Cabrini’s life dedicated to migrants over a century ago and the extensive worldwide plight of migrants today, we know we must do what she did: bring God’s caring love to those who, like our own ancestors at some point, face unknown challenges in a new land.

I speak with Fr. Ramil Fajardo, a dear friend from the archdiocese of Chicago who, for several years, was the rector of the shrine of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini in Chicago. During his time there, he organized a Jubilee Year dedicated to Mother Cabrini and he is now involved in an interesting way with the Church’s worldwide 2025 Jubilee Year. Fr. Ramil, in fact, makes a wonderful announcement about Mother Cabrini and Rome and the 2025 Holy Year. You will be delighted! So, join Fr. Ramil and me for that riveting story! When you think of the impact of Frances Xavier Cabrini’s life dedicated to migrants over a century ago and the extensive worldwide plight of migrants today, we know we must do what she did: bring God’s caring love to those who, like our own ancestors at some point, face unknown challenges in a new land.

This week I re-air Part II of an interview I did with Fr. Hans Zollner, a German Jesuit, theologian and psychologist, because his work is necessary to understanding an important event that took place in Rome this week. In 2012, Fr. Zollner founded and was president of the Center for Child Protection at Rome’s Jesuit-run Gregorian University. In April 2021, that became the Institute of Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies on Human Dignity and Care that he now directs. Fast forward to 2024. The Gregorian University annually holds what is known as the ISC, International Safeguarding Conference, sponsored by the Institute of Anthropology that Fr. Zollner founded. The 2024 conference, June 18 to 21, focused on Safeguarding and Disability, aiming at an approach that puts people with disabilities at the center of discussions,. In view of that conference, I felt it important to re-air my interview with Fr. Zollner about the work of the Institute of Anthropology.

This week and next in the interview segment, I will re-air an interview I did with Fr. Hans Zollner, a German Jesuit, theologian and psychologist as his work is necessary to understanding an important event that took place in Rome this week. In 2012, he founded and was president of the Center for Child Protection at Rome’s Jesuit-run Gregorian University. In April 2021, that became the Institute of Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies on Human Dignity and Care that he now directs. We talk about the Institute, the courses and degrees it offers and how dioceses around the world are adopting similar programs. Fast forward to 2024. The Gregorian University annually holds what is known as the ISC, International Safeguarding Conference, sponsored by the Institute of Anthropology that Fr. Zollner founded. The 2024 conference, June 18 to 21, focused on Safeguarding and Disability, aiming at an approach that puts people with disabilities at the center of discussions, addressing issues related to Safeguarding from their specific perspectives. In view of that conference, I felt it important to re-air my interview with Fr. Zollner about the work of the Institute of Anthropology.

I have a return guest this weekend on Vatican Insider, Fr. Lawrence Carney of the diocese of Wichita, Kansas, known in the U.S. for his devotion to the Holy Face and his recent book, “The Secret of The Holy Face.” As you heard him tell us in Part I last weekend, after serving in the diocese for six years, he accepted the position as chaplain of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of the Apostles, in Gower, Missouri. There he was confessor to Sister Wilhemina, the African-American nun from Missouri who founded the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of the Apostles. Her remains were discovered as possibly incorrupt in May 2023. We talk this week in Part II more about devotion to the Holy Face, the interior life, the League of St. Martin and much more! You can listen to that right after the news summary! Fr. Carney and I met through a common friend in South Dakota, who knows Father, and the head of the travel agency that brought Father, his parents and brother and others from around the U.S. to Rome on a pilgrimage. Ellen took these photos at my home during our interview and then at dinner with the group at a nearby hotel.

In the interview segment of Vatican Insider on this first weekend of June 2024, I reprise an earlier conversation with Fr. David Hulshof, director of Apostolic Formation at the Pontifical North American College in Rome. This weekend is Part II. Part I aired last weekend There are a number of apostolates that are mandatory for all seminarians during their formation years such as working with the poor and homeless, with refugees, visiting patients in hospitals, being a guide in St. Peter’s Basilica and working in an Italian parish. Fr. David explains the apostolates offered at NAC, and you will revel in his passion and joy for the priesthood, the apostolates and especially for the current class of seminarians. And you will feel very positive about the future pastors of the Church in America! As the website of the North American College notes about these apostolates: In each of the five parishes, seminarians are teaching religious education, preparing children for the sacraments of the church, assisting at Mass, and some opportunities for preaching. St. Galla is an Italian speaking parish, St. Maria in Monserrato is the Spanish speaking parish, and St. Patrick’s is the English language parish. Seminarians bring comfort to the elderly, sick and poor at four locations in the Eternal City. They serve in soup kitchens and visit with the poor on the streets. Others minister in a local prison and at a refugee center. Our men also evangelize by leading tours with pilgrims to St. Peter’s Basilica and St. Paul’s Outside the Walls. They assist the USCCB Visitor’s Office in Rome and offer Scavi tours of the excavations beneath St. Peter’s.